In this episode of Flanigan’s Eco-Logic, Ted speaks with Rick Heede, Director of the Climate Accountability Institute.

Rick discusses his early roots in Norway, his move to the United States, and his studies in energy and climate change that brought him to Colorado. He describes his early works studying carbon concentrations at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, CO, and later joining the Rocky Mountain Institute as one of the first staff members. He and Ted reminisce on the early days and the creativity of founder, Amory Lovins.

Rick goes on to share his experiences in quantifying carbon emissions, conducting greenhouse gas inventories, and calculating Scope 3 aviation emissions. He then dives into his work at the Carbon Accountability Institute, describing “The Carbon Majors” study, which details countries and companies that have the largest carbon footprint on a global scale. Rick demonstrates his passion for detailed quantification, ensuring that all aspects of the energy chain are accounted for, and that accountability is taken by those companies that knowingly contributed to the dire consequences of climate change.